When I read Indignation over the summer, I really enjoyed it. But I wouldn’t have read it unless my boyfriend hadn’t been given it by an Icelandic friend he’d met in Tanzania and if I hadn’t been on holiday in paradisiac Sri Lanka, which was satisfying my hunger for hammocks and beers so generously that all I could do was read the books I’d brought and then everyone else’s. Despite appearances, I’m not trying to flaunt my bourgie lifestyle – only point out how improbable and extreme were the circumstances of reading only my second ever Roth tome. Whatever, you like holidays too.
My first Philip Roth experience was with Goodbye, Columbus. I know a lot of people who love that book, but I wasn’t struck by any gigantic lightning bolts by any means. I’m a bit puzzled now, looking at the Wikipedia summary (yes, okay, whatever, I am lazy), about why I don’t remember Goodbye, Columbus more fondly. Some of those later stories sound pretty interesting. But, with reference to the first, titular, story, I can pretty easily explain why I’ve been so reluctant to dive into the Roth oeuvre since then. I guess I don’t really care about classism if the concerns are expressed predominantly within the context of wanting to screw a lady whom society deems inappropriate for you. So, that story kind of stuck in my head, but not in a good way.
A little while back, I expressed my reluctance to choose another Roth to read – mostly because I perceived that his oeuvre was uneven – at Lydia Kiesling’s blog (she now writes for The Millions), to which she replied: ‘Norman Mailer and Philip Roth both belong to my American Post-War Masculine Bermuda Triangle of Doom.’ Which also stuck in my head. How am I supposed to pick a safe harbour in a Triangle of Doom?
But I read this ‘Pulling a Roth’ post in the Wheeler Centre’s Dailies the other week, and it refers to comments Roth made in his Paris Review interview:
It’s all one book you write anyway. At night you dream six dreams. But are they six dreams? One dream prefigures or anticipates the next, or somehow concludes what hasn’t yet even been fully dreamed. Then comes the next dream, the corrective of the dream before—the alternative dream, the antidote dream—enlarging upon it, or laughing at it, or contradicting it, or trying just to get the dream dreamed right. You can go on trying all night long.
…the effects of which are basically ‘I’ve been writing the same novel…28 times.’
I thought again of Indignation, though many months have passed since I read it, and despite the similarities between it and ‘Goodbye, Columbus’, I remembered it with a small glow. (Of course, I was also recalling with warmth my rope bed swinging between coconut palms.) I think half of our holidaying companions read Indignation during those weeks, and we all really liked it.
Indignation is the first-person story of Marcus Messner, the son of a butcher and his wife. Marcus is a pretty good kid who gets excellent grades at school and helps out at the shop but is nevertheless being slowly alienated by his father’s increasingly pathological worrying. So he jumps ship to a small liberal arts college called Winesburg, where he is subjected to all the usual outsider traumas: frat boys shouting ‘Hey, Jew! Over here!’ and a roommate who has an almost demonic lack of regard for him.
But Winesburg is also, of course, the stage for Markie’s big love story, ‘the beauticious Olivia’. And here again the nauseating lusty affection for what a disgruntled Tim Rutten, writing in the LA Times, called ‘the requisite inappropriate shiksa’. I’ve heard a lot about Roth’s uncomfortably one-dimensional, gazed-upon women. But Indignation’s ridiculous affair worked for me, for a few reasons. One: sure, Olivia is mentally ill and is given short shrift as a character. But Messner’s obsessive fantasising is so feckless that it’s horribly sad to witness, especially in conjunction with his other foibles. I realise that if you’d read more than one other of Roth’s 28 books, Messner’s hopeless, useless, obsessive erotic thrall (that’s Rutten again, paraphrased) wouldn’t just be Chinese Water Torture drop #2, but something progressively worse than that. But Messner is an emotional infant, and his love for Olivia makes that clear.
Second, Messner’s über pathetic romance-stimulated body and thoughts are exploding against the backdrop of the Korean War, which is in its second year. Messner, the butcher’s son, is all too aware of what carnage is like: ‘I grew up with blood and grease and knife sharpeners and slicing machines and amputated fingers or missing parts of fingers on the hands of my three uncles as well as my father—and I never got used to it and I never liked it.’ His academic strivings are an attempt to put a gulf between himself and the violent visceral promise of war, and similarly, Messner’s self-imposed sexual deadline becomes more urgent in the threat of being drafted: ‘I was determined to have intercourse before I died.’
{Don’t read the next paragraph if you object to details that are arguably spoiler material.}
Christopher Hitchens was pretty scathing about this whole tra-la: ‘The ordinariness of the prose here (“trammels holding sway” and all that) is matched by the familiarity of the Eros/Thanatos dialectic.’ But for my part, I was relieved to see Roth’s sexual foregrounding anchored by some pathos in Indignation; though Messner is a terribly weird and self-indulgent unit, his defiance of school norms and his bleating anxiety are just sympathetic enough. This makes the novel’s framing conceit (revealed partway through the book) an effective one – Messner’s in hospital, deeply injured, and is narrating the events of his short life under morphine’s potent sway.
I do find it, in theory, an infuriating proposition that any author might consider each novel an improved iteration of the successive ones. However, late Roth in my case was a far more rewarding experience than early Roth. Indignation puts Roth’s usual ingredients together to create an effective novel; he even manages to make masturbation kind of poignant. Did I just say that? Hmmmm.



Nico | 14th Apr 10 | 7:09 am |
I read this – my only Roth to date – and was quite taken with it. But I don’t think I examined Indignation as analytically as you’ve done here. I plan to read others of his but want to be selective about it.
estelle | 14th Apr 10 | 12:57 pm |
I look at Roth as someone it’s really hard to read without first knowing what everyone else thinks — because I’m insecure, and also because his bibliography is so overwhelmingly stacked that it’s difficult to know how to even proceed. I think that’s why my interest in the book and how I experienced it was so analytical, as you say. Will you read Roth again?
Nico | 16th Apr 10 | 5:18 am |
I came to Indignation in a state of ignorance – I pretty much decided to read it b/c I liked the cover (which relates to your current post!) and I was working at a library so it was easy enough to take home. This flippant attitude to book selection was a perk of library work! So that is probably why I didn’t unpack it as closely as you have (and likely missed a few things in it too). But I would like to read American Pastoral, and perhaps The Human Stain. Are you keen to read any others?
estelle | 16th Apr 10 | 8:00 am |
Funnily enough I’d like to read early Roth – Portnoy’s Complaint – and yes, maybe one of the later ones. Not sure which though. It’s too big a bibliography. Similar ones to you, and maybe also The Plot against America.
Rafiq | 16th Apr 10 | 8:15 am |
When I was a teenager my mother told me Portnoy’s Complaint was one of her favourite books. So I read it and I hated it. Then my grandfather told me Lady Chatterley’s Lover was one of his favourite books. So I read that and I hated that too. The connection is that both books were banned in Australia at the time my mum and granddad read them. So I decided that they just liked them because they were an illicit pleasure and my family has a tendency to very mild forms of rebellion. Ever since I’ve somehow associated Roth – and Lawrence too for that matter – with writing overrated books about wanking.
I’m not convinced my first impressions were way off, but from the sounds of it I should give Roth another chance. I’ll certainly think about it.
estelle | 17th Apr 10 | 11:50 am |
Just accept it — your mum’s a perv and your granddad is too.
Actually, that DH Lawrence book is more about hot peasant–master sex than wanking, though there’s not actually that much sex in it, from what I can recall. Just dialects.
Dion | 29th Apr 10 | 2:14 pm |
“Ever since I’ve somehow associated Roth – and Lawrence too for that matter – with writing overrated books about wanking.”
“Actually, that DH Lawrence book is more about hot peasant–master sex than wanking, though there’s not actually that much sex in it, from what I can recall.”
It’s interesting to see these two authors discussed in the same breath, because ACTUALLY, both write overrated books about anal sex. I was interested in Cowley’s comment about the main character of the new book The Humbling, that ‘he is recognisably a Roth Man, not least in his penchant for anal sex’ (thanks E for directing us to this) because Lawrence too liked to get into the shit of things, so to speak. Its part of his manifesto in Lady Chatterly (which Rafiq, I don’t like either. its gender politics suck; although Estelle, I seem to remember rather a lot more Fanny/Mellors sex than you do!). Where all of this is leading, I don’t know. But I feel a similar impulse about the Roth catalogue. I recently read The Human Stain, and while I can admire a lot about it, I was practically tearing my eyebrows off by the end. (Actually, there is some peasant/master slave sex going on in that novel too, at least figuratively). Still, it doesn’t stop me from feeling I will read another Roth at some point (not likely for a while), given there are SO MANY and he is SO celebrated. But if that one happens to be Masculine Bermuda Triangle of Doom too, than I’d say its over for life between Phillip and I.
estelle | 1st May 10 | 12:46 pm |
I think we need to organise some kind of public lecture. ‘Shitbag’: Anal Sex in Roth and Lawrence.
‘Shitbag’ was Lawrence’ nickname for his wife, Frieda: ‘When Lawrence discovered anal sex, things went well, for him at least, though his amiable pet name for her was “shitbag”.’
Haha!!!
KYD podcast???